Weather: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)
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A Last Week Tonight segment on the tension between public and private weather forecasting, including NOAA data and AccuWeather's lobbying against free public weather data.
Routinely cited whenever US weather data, NOAA funding or privatization of forecasting comes up.
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8 comments from Hacker News
> I'm pretty sure that UX for all the NOAA/NWS web sites is horrible by design That's spot on, John Oliver did a whole episode about this: [VIDEO]
> It's will known that AccuWeather's president Joel Myers and his younger brother (now former) AccuWeather CEO Barry Lee Myers want to kill public domain weather report data. John Oliver of all people had a segment on this: * [VIDEO] * [LINK] * [LINK] * [LINK]
> unlikely that there is good precedent for a private weather organization. When has something being a bad idea or never having been tried stopped political apparatchik's from trying, especially given past appointee's opinions: * [VIDEO] * [LINK] * [LINK] * [LINK] See also Project 2025: > The document describes NOAA as a primary component "of the climate change alarm industry" and said it "should be broken up and downsized." […] > Project 2025 would not outright end the National Weather Service. It says the agency "should focus on its data-gathering services," and "should fully commercialize its forecasting operations." > It said that "commercialization of weather technologies should be prioritized to ensure that taxpayer dollars are invested in the most cost-efficient technologies for high quality research and weather data." Investing in commercial partners will increase competition, Project 2025 said. * [LINK]
> Cui bono? Barry Myers of AccuWeather for one: they charge for their services. See "The Plan to Privatize Weather Forecasts": * [LINK] * [LINK] * [LINK] John Oliver did a story about this in 2019 (Trump 1.0): * [VIDEO] * [LINK] If NOAA discontinues free weather forecasts, everyone (news, websites, apps) will have to pay someone to get them.
> Generally speaking the current administration is looking to cut some functions and programs from federal agencies and then pay private entities to perform those same functions because they believe that private industry can perform those same functions better more cheaply [1]. In some cases they want the federal agency to completely stop doing things and let the private sector do them instead: for example the National Weather Service. Some folks (e.g., the CEO of AccuWeather) wants zero free weather reports from the government, and you'd have to go to a private corporation to get a forecast. John Oliver had a segment on it during Trump 1.0: * [VIDEO]
> Among its other duties, NOAA employs thousands of people to help accurately predict the weather through the National Weather Service; privatizing federal weather data has long been a project of some conservative lawmakers too. John Oliver had a show on this during Trump 1.0: * [VIDEO]
Project 2025's plan for NOAA is in the Department of Commerce chapter: > Break Up NOAA. The single biggest Department of Commerce agency outside of decennial census years is the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which houses the National Weather Service, National Marine Fisheries Service, and other components. NOAA garners $6.5 billion of the department’s $12 billion annual operational budget and accounts for more than half of the department’s personnel in non-decadal Census years (2021 figures). […] > The NWS provides data the private companies use and should focus on its data-gathering services. Because private companies rely on these data, the NWS should fully commercialize its forecasting operations. […] > Downsize the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research. OAR provides theoretical science, as opposed to the applied science of the National Hurricane Center. OAR is, however, the source of much of NOAA’s climate alarmism. The preponderance of its climate-change research should be disbanded. OAR is a large network of research laboratories, an undersea research center, and several joint research institutes with universities. These operations should be reviewed with an aim of consolidation and reduction of bloat. * [LINK] John Oliver did a segment on (privatizing) weather during Trump 1.0: * [VIDEO]
John Oliver had a whole episode about this [VIDEO] tl;dw: AccuWeather, whos CEO donated to Trump's campaign.