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Lars Bak - The Making of a Secure and Robust IoT Development Platform

Curry On!0 HN recommenders · 2019–2020
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A Curry On talk by Lars Bak, known for V8 and Dart, on building a secure and robust IoT development platform. It discusses language and VM design choices for small devices.

Referenced mainly for Bak's firsthand account of why the Dart VM never shipped in Chrome and for his IoT language design points.

Compilers, interpreters & program analysisProgramming language designEmbedded systems & DIY electronics

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@tosh2019 · in “Lars Bak: The Making of a Secure and Robust IoT Development Platform”

minute 21: [VIDEO] * Object-oriented * Indentation-based syntax * Clean object model * Blocks with non-local returns * No eval and no runtime reflection * Tracing garbage collection

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@sebe2020 · in “Flutter and Dart, or how to quickly build a mobile app without losing your hair”

They certainly did find a new purpose for Dart outside of it being used in parts of their Ads platform, but Flutter, when is was the chrome experiment called sky, first started out using Javascript. The chrome guys decided to move on and look at several language before going with Dart, Swift may have been an option, if it was opensource at the time. Seems a reason for Dart's failure in the web space was mobile. Lar gave a talk last year about his and Kasper iot startup [LINK] he mentions why dart didn't make it into chrome, saying "then the whole mobile shift happen and there was no room for extra stuff in chrome" [VIDEO]

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@sebe2020 · in “Flutter and Dart, or how to quickly build a mobile app without losing your hair”

> my strong suspicion is the Chrome team killed the idea of shipping a Dart VM in Chrome Yeah in a video last year, Lars said "then the whole mobile shift happen and there was no room for extra stuff in chrome" [VIDEO]

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@pjmlp2020 · in “Smalltalk-87”

And then Lars Bak left, I guess desilusioned with out things turned out for Dart, and is now doing "Dart for IoT" back in Denmark. [VIDEO]

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@sebe2020 · in “Featherweight Go”

Lars gave a talk last year and said the intent was to put dart vm in chrome, then the whole mobile thing happen and there was no room for extra stuff in chrome. [VIDEO]

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