How We Should Vote (Range Voting)

Undefined Behavior3 HN recommenders · 2017–2019
43K views · explainer · evergreen · Uploaded 2016-09-10

A six-minute explainer from Undefined Behavior on range (score) voting. It follows an earlier video on Arrow's Theorem and shows how range voting seems to satisfy the criteria Arrow's Theorem says no ranked system can.

HN commenters link it in voting-reform discussions as a concise explanation of range voting versus other systems.

Watch on YouTube

12 comments from Hacker News

@LoonyBalloony2017 · in “Robots Aren’t Killing the American Dream”

Elections were (IMO) meant to be bloodless revolutions. its just the 1% has captured both primary political parties. Also, the flawed first past the post electoral system discourages competition (IMO to keep it cheaper for the 1% to own the whole process). I'll post some videos from people smarter then me: [LINK] [LINK] [VIDEO] [LINK] [LINK] [LINK]

RecommendsView on HN
@redahs2017 · in “Kenneth Arrow Has Died”

You might like 'undefined behavior'. The following video covers 'Range Voting' in relation to Arrow's Theorem: [VIDEO]

RecommendsView on HN
@LoonyBalloony2017 · in “Men Without Work”

"For example my desire as a buyer would be to purchase an awesome steak for about a dollar but the failings of our society have again let me down." "Lobby" congress to right these wrongs perhaps? [LINK] [VIDEO]

@LoonyBalloony2017 · in “The nearly 5M US Census Blocks with zero population (2014)”

Perhaps because powerful people don't want to find a solution; The powerful is exactly who is represented in our flawed electoral system: http//i.imgur.com/Uc6kX8G.jpg [LINK] [VIDEO] [LINK]

@fny2017 · in “Arrow's Theorem (2014)”

Arrows theorem is misleading because it only applies to rank order systems. Range voting (i.e. 0-5 rating system) satisfies all the criteria. [0] So yes, democracy is theoretically possible. [0]: [VIDEO]

@LoonyBalloony2017 · in “Join the Battle for Net Neutrality”

"bad electoral system." First Past The Post Voting - [LINK] Range Voting - [VIDEO] Single Transferable Vote - [LINK]

@LoonyBalloony2017 · in “More Than a Million Pro-Repeal Net Neutrality Comments Were Likely Faked”

First Past the Post voting: [LINK] Range Voting: [VIDEO] Single Transferable vote: [LINK] Do away with voting booths, attach voting to everyone's tax forms. Give everyone a $5 tax credit for voting. People who don't do taxes can go to a public library and just pull the voting portion off of the tax forms there and mail it in. Break up corporations in every sector of the economy and either resell the chunks back to the market or turn them all into 100% worker owned and operated co-ops.

@thelasthuman2018 · in “Decline of Global Extreme Poverty Continues but Has Slowed”

Some tweaks I'd make: Corporate structure: [LINK] Electoral system: What we have now - [LINK] Range voting - [VIDEO] Alternative vote - [LINK] Single transferrable vote - [LINK] Marx wrote about the theory of societal evolution; That there are certain phases civilization must pass through. The communism he wrote about would have to be very far down the road, 100+ years (IMO). This does not mean people sit back and do nothing, we still would have to work towards it. (Most) Capitalists profit from the status quo, and work to keep in place systems to maintain their spot in the hierarchy. Thus the antiquated electoral system in the USA, and the top heavy power/pay structures of business. TL;DR: give the average person more of a say/choice in the world they live in (politics/workplace), and they will find their way forward. (IMO)

@thelasthuman2018 · in “China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks”

The real problem is both main stream political parties don't represent around 45% of the country. First Past The Post Voting- [LINK] Range Voting- [VIDEO] Single Transferable Vote - [LINK] Alternative Vote - [LINK] Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - [LINK]

@thelasthuman2018 · in “The Second Half of Watergate Was Bigger, Worse, and Forgotten by the Public”

Elections are supposed to be bloodless revolutions. If you can't effect change through the electoral system, then the non violent solution is to revolutionize how we vote. Relevant videos (IMO) First Past The Post Voting - [LINK] Range Voting - [VIDEO] Single Transferable Vote - [LINK] Alternative Vote - [LINK] Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - [LINK] Bonus video This video will make you angry - [LINK]

RecommendsView on HN
@thelasthuman2019 · in “A tiny Swiss company thinks it can help stop climate change”

Reform the electoral system to achieve the representation we all deserve. The electoral system we use now: [LINK] Alternatives: [VIDEO] [LINK] [LINK] [LINK] We can start introducing these to everyone at the state and local level to build momentum for electoral reform at the federal level. A good old fashioned general strike until we get what we need from our "representatives".

@thelasthuman2019 · in “U.S. Supreme Court Puts Limits on Police Power to Seize Private Property”

How important is this privilege if I can maliciously control how you vote? Now imagine the good we can do with real electoral reform (Democrats idea of repealing citizens United is a meager start, but weak lip service to real reform) What we have now - First Past The Post Voting - [LINK] Range Voting - [VIDEO] Single Transferable Vote - [LINK] Alternative Vote - [LINK] Mixed-Member Proportional Representation - [LINK] Electoral reform is just step 1, something we can all come together for. Something no one could possibly be against. How about if I control who can be voted for? Of course it matters - [LINK] bonus video: This video will make you angry - [LINK]